For those that missed it, yesterday's rage at Kinja 1.2 (1.2 is what Nick Denton calls it - I know it seems like there have been more versions, but he's the top dog. The main man. The big cheese. Numero Uno. Mister Big. El Jefe. The hostest with the mostest. The... I'll stop now.) (If you don't like 1.2, you can call it Tiger. Indeed, we all must call it Tiger. Korben can explain why.) turned into last night's serious discussions about it. Denton himself was answering questions for a large chunk of the day in a thread you can find here. You have to hand it to him for being willing to listen and discuss. There's some interesting things to be found in that thread, including the fact that they do appear to be taking user feedback into preparing the final release version of Tiger. K1.2. Whatever.

Also from Denton, a post on how he sees it all working. Here's an article from 2012 that talks about Denton's visions for comments. It's interesting that some of the things talked about there don't really match up with what is being proposed. The changes being proposed are focusing on limiting discussion. They're designed to give post authors more control over shaping the discussion that happens on a post.

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This incongruity can also be found in Denton's answers. The commentariat are important contributors because his vision is not of authors and commenters, but as one group, developing the story together. We're also a mob that post authors need to be protected from. We're a dessert topping AND a floor wax!

Denton's responses prompted several posts. There's this discussion from Sugarhill regarding attempts by Jez authors to silence discussion. I've got a couple of posts - one linking to Denton's comments, and another touching on some of the more troubling comments he made.

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There was also a great piece from Korben regarding commenting and commenting communities. It's well worth a look. There are no pillars in the piece, unfortunately.

Here's a link to an O-Deck guide to making comments in K1.2 (Tiger) divide into more readable groups.

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Here's a funny annotation of the new Kinja from Whiskey.

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There's a lot more out there, so if anyone has a post they want added, let me know.